RE: Video camera recommendation?

[Abdalla Ahmad via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>]

Hello Mark

 

Did this setup help resolve issues where the acquisition suddenly stops and the solution was to check and increase the jumbo frames? As the camera is connected directly to a NIC, I assume you would have no issues even at high frame rates?

 

Thanks!

Abdalla.

 

From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> On Behalf Of Mark Rivers via Tech-talk
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 4:04 PM
To: Donny Domagoj Cosic <Donny.Domagoj.Cosic at irb.hr>
Cc: EPICS Tech Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: Video camera recommendation?

 

Hi Donny,

 

• These cameras take up quite a lot of bandwidth, what parameters do you find to be optimal when even three of these cameras simultaneously, do you use any compression? Do you collect and broadcast the image using AreaDetectors?

 

We use the following strategies to mitigate network bandwidth issues:

 

• Connect to camera directly to a dedicated NIC on the computer which will most frequently be viewing those images, using a private IP.  That computer runs the IOC.  It can share the images on the network via PVA or CA.

• Run the camera only at the frame rate needed for the application.

• Run the CA or PVA plugin that shares the images on the network at the minimum rate required, for example 5 Hz.

• Use the NDPluginCodec to do JPEG compression of the images before sharing on network with PVA.  This can reduce bandwidth 10X with no visible loss of quality.

• For color cameras always do the Bayer to RGB conversion on the IOC, not on the camera.  This reduces bandwidth by a factor of 3.

 

We have several computers with 3 cameras each.  These use dedicated NICs and mainly local display, and that works fine.

 

Mark

 

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From: Donny Domagoj Cosic <Donny.Domagoj.Cosic at irb.hr>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 4:08 AM
To: Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
Cc: Jesse Hopkins <jhopkins1 at iit.edu>; EPICS Tech Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: Video camera recommendation?

 

Hi,

These cameras take up quite a lot of bandwidth, what parameters do you find to be optimal when even three of these cameras simultaneously, do you use any compression? Do you collect and broadcast the image using AreaDetectors?

Thank you,

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Dana 2024-09-19 22:04, Mark Rivers via Tech-talk je napisao(la):

Hi Jesse,

 

I just bought 3 of these cameras for exactly the purpose you describe:

 

FLIR BlackFly S GigE, model BFS-PGE-23S6C-C.

• Color
• 2.3 MP (1920x1200)
• 41 frames/s
• $580

 

https://www.flir.com/products/blackfly-s-gige/?model=BFS-PGE-23S6C-C&vertical=machine+vision&segment=iis

 

These cameras have a resolution and aspect ratio that matches many computer monitors.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Mark

 

 

From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> On Behalf Of Jesse Hopkins via Tech-talk
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 1:17 PM
To: EPICS Tech Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Subject: Video camera recommendation?

 

Hi folks,

 

We're looking to migrate all of our old analog video cameras around the beamline to ones that are digital, preferably GigE. Does anyone have recommendations for relatively cheap, reliable, color digital video cameras that integrate well with AreaDetector? Ideally something that's ~1080p in resolution.

 

Apologies if this has been asked before, I did a quick search of the archives and didn't turn up anything recent.

 

All the best.

- Jesse

 

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Jesse Hopkins, PhD
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