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Jörn Dreyer via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov> · Fri, 10 Sep 2021 06:04:47 +0200

Hi Wanming,

The last report is from the camera directly connected to the PC doing the 
readout, right?
If so, then your problem with the setup you originally had is  the network. It 
will not be enough to just enable jumbo frames on the camera and the PC 
running the IOC, as long as there are switches involved. You will also need to 
enable jumbo frames in all the switches that are between the camera and the 
PC. I prefer to have such cameras connected directly to the PC via a small 
unmanaged switch. Then one can optimize the cameras network setting such, that 
they do not start sending data at the same time.

Regards,

Jörn 

Am Freitag, 10. September 2021, 02:10:03 CEST schrieb Liu, Wanming via Tech-
talk:
> Hi Guobao,
> arv-viewer can get video stream with some errors from the camera but not the
> triggered frames.   ADAravis can also get the video stream with a lot of
> bad frame errors. So I guess if I kept triggering it, I may get few good
> frames out of a large number of triggers too.
> 
> Hi Maren,
> You are right, I typed in one extra 2.  Luckly, I'm not making any financial
> transaction.:)
> 
> The number of elements more than needed won't be a problem but fewer than
> needed will be.   I found it out when I was setting up blackflys.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wanming
> ________________________________
> From: Maren Purves <m.purves at eaobservatory.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 6:06 PM
> To: Shen, Guobao <gshen at anl.gov>
> Cc: Liu, Wanming <wmliu at anl.gov>; Rivers, Mark L.
> <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>; tech-talk at aps.anl.gov <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
> Subject: Re: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> camera
> 
> Looks like a typo to me, one too many 2s
> I get 2228224
> 
> My keyboard sometimes causes such things.
> 
> Maren
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:24 PM Shen, Guobao via Tech-talk
> 
> <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov> wrote:
> > Wanming,
> > 
> > It probably does not matter, but I did see you have this
> > 
> > # Define NELEMENTS to be enough for a 2048x1088 mono image
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("NELEMENTS", "22228224")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > the 2048x1088 does not need 20M elements.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Are you able to talk with the camera using aravis on your Linux machine?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Guobao
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> on behalf of Tech-Talk
> > <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov> Reply-To: "Liu, Wanming" <wmliu at anl.gov>
> > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 4:47 PM
> > To: "Rivers, Mark L." <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
> > Cc: Tech-Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
> > Subject: RE: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It does have a beta version windows program from the vendor which I
> > believe was made using Labview as it depends on Labview runtimes.  That
> > program works fine.  But we need to integrate the camera into our system
> > and that is why I’m trying to use ADAravis.
> > 
> > The user manual has a chapter called “SI Image CMOS TCP/IP Camera
> > Control”.  If I could not make it working with ADAravis, then I will need
> > to go through both that chapter and the areaDetector developer guide 
> > before I can try to program a support module for it.  I hope that I don’t
> > need to go that far.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the helps.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wanming
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:19 PM
> > To: Liu, Wanming <wmliu at anl.gov>
> > Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
> > Subject: RE: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does this camera come with a vendor GUI program, and/or a vendor SDK?  If
> > so, have you tried to run the camera with that vendor software?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Liu, Wanming <wmliu at anl.gov>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:09 PM
> > To: Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
> > Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
> > Subject: RE: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I just checked the settings on linux machine in the Lab.  It has been
> > configured according to the instruction and the camera wasn’t working
> > there.
> > 
> > I enabled jumbo frame with both NICs in the windows machine in my office
> > and configured the linux virtual machine following the instructions( The
> > camera is connected to one physical NIC which is bridged into the virtual
> > machine).  It doesn’t seem to have any effect.
> > 
> > The next thing I could try is to connect the camera directly to the linux
> > machine in the lab using a crossover cable instead of over the LAN and
> > see how it goes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the helps.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wanming
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:11 PM
> > To: Liu, Wanming <wmliu at anl.gov>
> > Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
> > Subject: RE: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Wanming,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with MaskedIntReg
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Those messages are normal, you can ignore them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > When I tried to acquire data from the camera,  the IOC complained about
> > ADAravis::newBufferCallback bad frame status: Timeout
> > or sometimes
> > ADAravis::newBufferCallback bad frame status: Missing Pkts.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have you set the Linux system parameters for GigE cameras as explained
> > here:
> > 
> > https://areadetector.github.io/master/ADGenICam/ADGenICam.html#linux-usb-a
> > nd-gige-system-settings
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Liu, Wanming <wmliu at anl.gov>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 1:43 PM
> > To: Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
> > Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
> > Subject: RE: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mark,
> > 
> > Thanks for your response.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > When use addCamera.sh in ADGenICam with the XML file extracted with
> > arv-tool-0.8, it shows a bunch of don’t know what to do with IntReg. 
> > Based on the ADAravis documentation, it should be fine.
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with MaskedIntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with MaskedIntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > Don't know what to do with IntReg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Then I copied one of the st.cmd…  file into st.cmd.si and modified it as
> > following
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > < envPaths
> > 
> > errlogInit(20000)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > dbLoadDatabase("$(TOP)/dbd/ADAravisApp.dbd")
> > 
> > ADAravisApp_registerRecordDeviceDriver(pdbbase)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > # Name of camera as reported by arv-tool
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("CAMERA_NAME", "Spectral Instruments, Inc.-1700-139")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > # The maximum image width; used for row profiles in the NDPluginStats
> > plugin
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("XSIZE",  "2048")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > # The maximum image height; used for column profiles in the NDPluginStats
> > plugin
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("YSIZE",  "1088")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > # Define NELEMENTS to be enough for a 2048x1088 mono image
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("NELEMENTS", "22228224")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > # Enable register caching
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("ENABLE_CACHING", "1")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > # The database file
> > 
> > epicsEnvSet("GENICAM_DB_FILE", "$(ADGENICAM)/db/si.template")
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > < st.cmd.base
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Then I launched IOC and every thing looks fine.  The problem was when I
> > tried to acquire data from the camera.
> > 
> > When I tried to acquire data from the camera,  the IOC complained about
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ADAravis::newBufferCallback bad frame status: Timeout
> > 
> > or sometimes
> > 
> > ADAravis::newBufferCallback bad frame status: Missing Pkts.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > while no image can be displayed on the OPI.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It might be some camera setting issues or network setting issue.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for advices
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wanming
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:18 AM
> > To: Liu, Wanming <wmliu at anl.gov>
> > Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
> > Subject: RE: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Wanming,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Those errors may not prevent ADAravis from working.  For example most but
> > not all cameras have the SensorWidth feature, but ADAravis does not
> > require it.  It does require WidthMax.  Similarly, many cameras do not
> > have a GainRaw feature.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What happens if you run arv-tool-0.8 to extract the XML file, use the
> > Python scripts to generate the template and OPI files, and then try to
> > run an ADAravis IOC with the camera?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> On Behalf Of Liu, Wanming
> > via Tech-talk Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:54 AM
> > To: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
> > Subject: Using ADAravis with Spectral Instrument 1700 Radiation hard
> > camera
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We recently bought a few radiation hard GigE cameras from Spectral
> > Instruments Inc.  I’m just wondering if anybody has any experience using
> > them with ADAravis.
> > 
> > We have no problem using ADAravis with other GigE camera we have.  But so
> > far there is no success with this Spectral Instruments 1700 radiation
> > hard camera.
> > 
> > When I checked it with arv-test-0.8.exe, it reports several errors.
> > 
> > $ arv-test-0.8.exe
> > 
> > Found 1 device
> > 
> > Testing 'Spectral Instruments, Inc.:1700'
> > 
> > Genicam:Load                        SUCCESS
> > 
> > Genicam:Schema                      IGNORED
> > 
> > Properties:SensorSizeReadout        FAILURE node 'SensorWidth' not found
> > 
> > Properties:SensorSizeCheck          IGNORED
> > 
> > Properties:GainReadout              FAILURE node 'GainRaw' not found
> > 
> > Properties:ExposureTimeReadout      SUCCESS
> > 
> > MultipleAcquisition:BufferCheck     FAILURE node 'TriggerSelector' not
> > found
> > 
> > SingleAcquisition:BufferCheck       FAILURE
> > 
> > Chunks:NoSupport                    FAILURE
> > 
> > SoftwareTrigger:NoSupport           FAILURE
> > 
> > GigEVision:NStreamChannels          SUCCESS
> > 
> > GigEVision:StreamChannel            SUCCESS
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Any comments and suggestions are appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wanming Liu

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