Experimental Physics and
Industrial Control System

Ben Franksen via Core-talk <core-talk at aps.anl.gov> · Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:48:40 +0200

Hi Andrew

Am 06.04.20 um 19:37 schrieb Johnson, Andrew N.:
> Are you aware that I publish a full-text RSS feed of the EPICS
> mailing lists as part of their archives?

No, I was not. Nice.

> I’m not sure if that would
> be sufficient for your needs or not, but I find these feeds very
> useful.

To date I have been using rss feeds only to be notified about certain
blog posts and I usually view them in my browser because that looks
better. It is probably a good way to read *-talk but I would also like
to send/reply (see below).

> Links to them can be found on the main page for the list, see
> here<https://epics.anl.gov/core-talk/index.php#rss> for the core-talk
> URLs.
> 
> I don’t particularly object to your signing up the lists to gmane,
> but I suspect the demand would be rather low

Probably (unless this convinces others on this list to give it a try).

>, and gmane appears to be
> a 1-man shop. See these<https://lwn.net/Articles/748184/> two
> lwn.net<https://lwn.net/Articles/808904/> items for some news about
> it.

There has been some trouble in the last year or so. But the service is
again up and running smoothly (with the new top domain .io, the old one
is no longer active). Yes, it's a one-man-shop but I don't mind because
I personally find it invaluable. Not having to configure mail filters
manually for each list I am subscribed to (there is quite a few of them)
makes my life a lot easier. Similarly, it avoids the hassle of having to
make sure you reply to the list every time and of deleting the
individual email addresses to avoid sending multiple messages
redundantly; in a news reader this is the default behavior. It keeps
your email storage to a reasonable size as well. (Some of those features
you get by reading via rss feed, too, so it may not be such a great
improvement for you.)

> I haven’t used NNTP myself for a very long time; does gmane offer
> a bidirectional gateway or is it just a read-only feed?

It is bidirectional. The first time you send via new.gmane.io it sends
you a challenge back just to make sure your email is valid. Otherwise it
is the user's responsibility to check that they are allowed to post.

> I can also point you to the raw list-archive mbox files if gmane has
> a way to import them.

Thanks. I haven't done this before (i.e. request a new list to be
added). Doing it now..., no there is no option for this, but I added a
comment for the maintainer just in case.

Now I get this response from the automation:

"""
Request adding this list to the Gmane archive...Invalid list address
tech-talk at aps.anl.gov: Timed out while contacting mailgateway.anl.gov.
"""

I guess your IT people have to allow gmane access to that server.

Cheers
Ben
-- 
...it is impossible to speak of a depoliticized economy as the liberals
do, or of a separation between economic exploitation and political
oppression as the Marxists articulate. The basic distinction, rather, is
between power and creativity...
             -- Jonathan Nitzan and Shimshon Bichler: Capital as Power

Experimental Physics and Industrial Control System

Experimental Physics and
Industrial Control System