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Mark Rivers via Tech-talk <[email protected]> · Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:24:37 +0000

Hi Ralph,

Thanks for the reply.

> The new setup makes "To:" and "From:" addresses the same. Some mail apps may act funny in those cases.

This is what I see on a message this morning from tech-talk, as viewed using "View message details" in the Outlook Web client:

MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 03:38:24 -0600
X-BeenThere: [email protected]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: EPICS Mailing List <tech-talk.aps.anl.gov>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mailman.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/tech-talk>,
<mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]>
List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mailman.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/tech-talk>,
<mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe>
From: =?gb2312?B?y+/M7NCl?= via Tech-talk <[email protected]>
Reply-To: =?gb2312?B?y+/M7NCl?= <[email protected]>
Sender: <[email protected]>
Errors-To: [email protected]
Return-Path: [email protected]

Note that it does not list a To: field at all!  I suspect that is the problem.  It does have tech-talk in the Sender: field, and in the From: field (but with the string "via").

However, other messages (like this one I received directly from you) do have a To: field.

MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <[email protected]>
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
From: Ralph Lange <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:18:44 +0100
X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: <CAGJXJ2EquzYji_0Hztb7+JExLUQ=3A=yu_ZKVbdfG5AUveyKng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGJXJ2EquzYji_0Hztb7+JExLUQ=3A=yu_ZKVbdfG5AUveyKng@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Question about this mailing list
To: Mark Rivers <[email protected]>
CC: EPICS Tech Talk <[email protected]>

If I do Reply All to the message from you (which this is) then it does go to tech-talk because it is in the CC: field.

Mark

________________________________
From: Ralph Lange <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 2:18 AM
To: Mark Rivers
Cc: EPICS Tech Talk
Subject: Re: Question about this mailing list

I can report that the Gmail web interface also acts reasonably, i.e. "Reply" goes to author only, "Reply all" goes to author CC tech-talk (like this mail).

Also:

  *   The new setup makes "To:" and "From:" addresses the same. Some mail apps may act funny in those cases.
  *   Microsoft Outlook is known for having its own interpretation of RFC 822, such as ignoring "Reply-To:" headers and threading by "Subject:" content instead of using "In-Reply-To:" headers.

Cheers,
~Ralph

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 23:20, Mark Rivers via Tech-talk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Folks,

Recently Argonne required changing the mail headers for mailing lists like tech-talk and core-talk to improve security.

I am now having a problem when I want to reply to a tech-talk or core-talk message.

Prior to this change when I did "Reply All" it sent a reply to both the original sender and the list.  If I did "Reply" it went only to the sender.

Now when I do either "Reply All" or "Reply" it goes only to the sender, not to the list.  I am seeing this behavior when using Outlook, Outlook Web client, and the Mail application on an iPhone.  In the mail application on the iPhone it does not even list "Reply All" as an option, only "Reply".  I find this quite inconvenient, because I need to remember to add "tech-talk" even if I do Reply All.

Have others seen this behavior?  Is there some setting in Outlook which can be used to allow "Reply All" to also send to the list?

Andrew Johnson reports that the Thunderbird e-mail client does work correctly, Reply All goes to the list as well.

Thanks,
Mark

Experimental Physics and Industrial Control System

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