RE: 2026 white paper on EPICS vs commercial SCADA software

[Ivan Podadera Aliseda via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>]

Dear EPICS colleagues,

 

Wrt to this topic, I would like to clarify -as IFMIF-DONES Technical Director- that IFMIF-DONES technical baseline is the use of the EPICS as IFMIF-DONES Control System (CS) Framework.

Our CS architecture  was presented by our Control Systems Control Leader in the last ICALEPCS: https://proceedings.jacow.org/icalepcs2025/pdf/TUAG005.pdf, and you can address to her for further details.

The article mentioned below is an R&D paper prepared by some colleagues linked  previously to- DONES but that do not represent the official view of-DONES Programme . None of the official IFMIF-DONES team participated in the development of this article and agreed with the work carried out and the conclusions 

We of course select EPICS for its technical soundness and the experience from many years and labs, and we for sure take the experience we got for many years from LIPAc and from other brother facilities around the world.

Myself, I am proud of being a member of this forum for more than 15 years, and I have always appreciated the collaborative spirit of the community, which is the core of the EPICS community.

From IFMIF-DONES we are committed and ready to strength the participation within the EPICS community as active members in the following years.

We are really looking forward to continuing working with you all and all new facilities that come onboard soon (hopefully NASA as well!)

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> On Behalf Of Diego Omitto via Tech-talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2026 8:20 PM
To: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <richard.k.evans at nasa.gov>
Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
Subject: Re: 2026 white paper on EPICS vs commercial SCADA software

 

Subject: Re: Comparative SCADA evaluation - IFMIF-DONES paper

Hi Rich,

I read the paper and have a few specific concerns.

I noticed a factual error in the operational critique: the authors claim that changing a variable property in EPICS requires restarting the IOC database. Runtime field modification via caput, dbpf, and autosave/restore is standard practice. This is not a minor point. If the evaluators did not know this, the scoring in Table 2 reflects unfamiliarity with the framework, not its actual capabilities.

This also undermines the paper's characterization of EPICS as a legacy framework. EPICS 7 introduced PVAccess as a first-class protocol with structured data types, high-throughput streaming, and normative types that go well beyond what OPC-UA offers in accelerator contexts. The ecosystem around it is actively developed.

More damaging to the paper's credibility: it cites the ITER OPC-UA/EPICS gateway as prior art for the CODAC-MPS integration problem, then penalizes EPICS in the scoring for limited OPC-UA support. The solution they acknowledge exists was excluded from the evaluation.

Finally, the paper does not address the most obvious question: LIPAc, the direct operational prototype of IFMIF-DONES, runs EPICS. I don't see an explanation for why a framework adequate for the prototype is suddenly inadequate for the full facility.

That omission says more about the motivation behind this study than the scoring does.

Best,
Diego

 

 

On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 1:29 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov> wrote:

Dear EPICS community,

I recently came across a new whitepaper that present a comparative evaluation of EPICS against various commercial SCADA platform alternatives. The evaluation uses a set of requirements that they state are representative of the IFMIF-DONES plant currently being constructed in Escúzar, Granada, Spain.  The paper is linked below.  If you have a moment and are inclined, please take a look at Table 2 and Figure 3 and let me know if you feel that EPICS has been rated accurately/fairly.

"A comparative study of industrial and open-source SCADAs to optimize the design of control systems for the IFMIF-DONES plant"
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://www.researchgate.net/publication/403928088_A_comparative_study_of_industrial_and_open-source_SCADAs_to_optimize_the_design_of_control_systems_for_the_IFMIF-DONES_plant__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!dLrszc_F4-MNU6rvR6_tBzD-oxGJWgrejzopanOX1p9BNsJxyEPjxFevbkdTX0hdTvbTDWos84abzN6ViuHnARMNORgosr0r$

Note - Figure 3 shows EPICS as seriously deficient as compared to commercial SCADA software, but then I saw what they said on Table 2 requirement #17 wrt video and it doesn't seem like they fully understood EPICS well enough to give it an honest rating. 

The paper is being circulated within my organization as strong evidence that EPICS is a poor option as a control system SCADA for a facility.  Any insights this community can provide in explaining the possible motivations of  the authors and/or highlighting any clear bias or incorrect assessments that the paper may contain would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
- Rich Evans
  NASA Armstrong Test Facility
  Sandusky, Ohio