RE: AlliedVision Manta G-235B

[Mark Rivers via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>]

ADVimba works on Windows and supports interfaces besides just USB and GigE.  For GigE on Linux either works fine.

 

From: Miroslaw Dach <mdach at lbl.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 2:06 PM
To: Cobb, Tom (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) <tom.cobb at diamond.ac.uk>
Cc: EPICS Tech-Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>; Mark Rivers <rivers at cars.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: AlliedVision Manta G-235B

 

Hi Mark and Tom,

 

Many thanks for sharing your expertise and experience with the camera. 

Currently we use ADProsilica driver for Manta G-145B which looks obsolete and is not supported any more.

Which one is better to use for Manta cameras instead: ADVimba or ADAravis ?

Thanks.

 

Best Regards

Mirek

 

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 4:24 AM Cobb, Tom (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) <tom.cobb at diamond.ac.uk> wrote:

Hi Mirek,

 

We use the Manta G-235B with ADAravis and it works well. As Mark says, the sensor is much better than the earlier CCD sensors.

 

Thanks,

Tom

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From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> on behalf of Mark Rivers via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Sent: 04 November 2023 13:27
To: EPICS Tech-Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>; Miroslaw Dach <mdach at lbl.gov>
Subject: Re: AlliedVision Manta G-235B

 

Hi Mirek,

 

The Manta G-145B uses the Sony ICX-285 CCD sensor.  It is 1388x1038 pixels and does 15 frames/s.

The Manta G-235B uses the Sony IMX-174 CMOS sensor.   It is 1936x1215 pixels and does 50 frames/s.  It is a much better sensor than the ICX-285 with more pixels, greater full well capacity, better sensitivity and higher speed.

 

I don't have experience with that camera, but I do have experience with that sensor in cameras from FLIR (formerly Point Grey).  I have extensively used these models:

 

GS3-U3-23S6M-C  This is a USB-3 version that does 163 frames/s 8-bit and 110 frames/s 12-bit. 

https://www.flir.com/products/grasshopper3-usb3/?model=GS3-U3-23S6M-C&vertical=machine+vision&segment=iis

 

GS3-PGE-23S6M-C  This is a GigE version that does 48 frames/s 8-bit and 29 frames/s 12-bit. 

https://www.flir.com/products/grasshopper3-gige/?model=GS3-PGE-23S6M-C&vertical=machine+vision&segment=iis

 

Any of these cameras should work fine.

 

If you go with the Allied Vision camera I recommend you switch from the ADProsilica driver to the ADVimba or ADAravis drivers.  ADProsilica is based on a very old SDK that is no longer supported.

 

Mark

 

 

 

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From: Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> on behalf of Miroslaw Dach via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>

Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 1:49 AM
To: EPICS Tech-Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Subject: AlliedVision Manta G-235B

 

Hi folks,

 

We have been using in ALS the AlliedVision Manta G-145B cameras with areaDetector ADProsilica driver for several years .

The G-145B cameras are used to capture beam spot images in ALS.

This camera model is not produced any more so we are searching for an alternative.

The AlliedVision suggested an alternative model: Manta G-235B with similar specification. 

Do any of you have experience with  Manta G-235B cameras or other models which could be worth considering?

 

Our requirements are:

GigE standard

pixel size under: 10um x 10um
sensor size 2/3"  
update rate 10Hz
12 bits  CCD/CMOS
image size like:  1390x1038
triggerable with the external trigger
preferred:

24V power
C-Mount

Best Regards

Mirek

 

 

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