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Subject: Re: Would this motor record documentation be considered "current"
From: Torsten Bögershausen via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
To: "Paduan Donadio, Marcio" <marcio at slac.stanford.edu>, "tech-talk at aps.anl.gov" <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:52:42 +0200
The motor module itself has a docs/ directory
(which is worth reading, I think)

In this file:

<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/epics-modules/motor/blob/master/docs/motorDeviceDriver.html__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ccGdcfT2hS1jAttRXBrG0WuW8l2lNuWdNMgtobqvEK0VwxKnIdy-B7s94AES-BX1voCIrCZM2HTrTTSzPFY$ >


We can read:
<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https:**Agithub.com*epics-modules*motor*blob*master*docs*motorDeviceDriver.html__;Ly8vLy8vLy8!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ccGdcfT2hS1jAttRXBrG0WuW8l2lNuWdNMgtobqvEK0VwxKnIdy-B7s94AES-BX1voCIrCZM2HTrSnEF_Qc$ >

The ACS MCB-4B is the simplest Model 3 driver,
consisting of only 336 lines of well-commented C++ code (ACSSrc/MCB4BDriver.h and MCB4BDriver.cpp). It does not implement any controller-specific features, it only implements support for standard motor record features.

Does this help ?
Please don't hesitate to ask.
/Torsten


On 2025-04-30 20:25, Paduan Donadio, Marcio via Tech-talk wrote:
Hello!

Is there a good document explaining how to develop a model 3 device support for motors?

Thank you,

Márcio
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*From:* Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov> on behalf of Torsten Bögershausen via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2025 01:20
*To:* Graeme Winter <gw363 at cornell.edu>; Foster, Andrew (-,RAL,TEC) <Andrew.Foster at diamond.ac.uk>
*Cc:* tech-talk at aps.anl.gov <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
*Subject:* Re: Would this motor record documentation be considered "current"
Now,

I would say that this document is not fully current.
- It seems to describe the model 1 driver
- It misses the model 3 driver "framework", which is what
    is used for all modern controllers.
- The Chapter 3.3 Backlash seems wrong.

I don't think that there is a difference between EPICS 3 and 7
regarding the EPICS motor module.


What information are you looking for ?

The "official" documentation is here:
<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/epics-modules/motor/tree/ master/docs__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!bcxx9VUxVgj00rhv7GcRujSbI- VVEzfqzYfZbdlNlgPVpX63Dmc661WHUFNZwXo52oV7GMu64E0WgVPhsPQ$ >

And then I gave some introduction here:

<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/EPICS-motor-wg/epics-mwg- discussions/blob/master/documents/2024-04-16-MotionTraining-at-PAL/3- MotorRec2024-v4.pptx__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!bcxx9VUxVgj00rhv7GcRujSbI- VVEzfqzYfZbdlNlgPVpX63Dmc661WHUFNZwXo52oV7GMu64E0Wcco47Ts$ >

HTH
/Torsten


On 2025-04-29 18:16, Graeme Winter via Tech-talk wrote:
Thanks Andy

Yes, I had found that one also - however that one feels much more an index of definitions than a narrative on how to get started :-)

I’ll try following them in parallel to see if I can get an idea of where things deviate… though maybe EPICS 3 and 7 deviate little in this area?

All the best Graeme

On Apr 29, 2025, at 11:13 AM, Foster, Andrew (-,RAL,TEC) <Andrew.Foster at diamond.ac.uk> wrote:

Hi Graeme,
I’m not familiar with that document, I always look here:
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://epics-modules.github.io/motor/
motorRecord.html__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!bcxx9VUxVgj00rhv7GcRujSbI- VVEzfqzYfZbdlNlgPVpX63Dmc661WHUFNZwXo52oV7GMu64E0WYs45UsU$ <https:// urldefense.us/v3/__https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://epics-modules.github.io/motor/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ccGdcfT2hS1jAttRXBrG0WuW8l2lNuWdNMgtobqvEK0VwxKnIdy-B7s94AES-BX1voCIrCZM2HTr0HYNGLM$ motorRecord.html__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!bcxx9VUxVgj00rhv7GcRujSbI- VVEzfqzYfZbdlNlgPVpX63Dmc661WHUFNZwXo52oV7GMu64E0WYs45UsU$>  <https://
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Cheers, Andy
*From:*Tech-talk <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov <mailto:tech-talk-
bounces at aps.anl.gov>>*On Behalf Of*Graeme Winter via Tech-talk
*Sent:*29 April 2025 16:40
*To:*tech-talk at aps.anl.gov <mailto:tech-talk at aps.anl.gov <mailto:tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>>
*Subject:*Would this motor record documentation be considered "current"
Good morning
Before I start committing too much of this to memory or putting it into effect, would this be considered “current”?
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epics-motor <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://
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url=https%3A%2F%2Fmdavidsaver.github.io%2Fepics-doc%2Fepics- motor.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Cgw363%40cornell.edu%7Cd98be9eddd8b49bcda6c08dd8738d606%7C5d7e43661b9b45cf8e79b14b27df46e1%7C0%7C0%7C638815400507648712%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PsYmq0bx87OSQ9L5iTFyrxyX1wyVuatTwnj840nZAlk%3D&reserved=0> PDF Document · 178 KB <https:// nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/? url=https%3A%2F%2Fmdavidsaver.github.io%2Fepics-doc%2Fepics- motor.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Cgw363%40cornell.edu%7Cd98be9eddd8b49bcda6c08dd8738d606%7C5d7e43661b9b45cf8e79b14b27df46e1%7C0%7C0%7C638815400507663645%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2F3Zd6m2zw%2Bsl7yqtlMxURVcU0WxsJbOefFheopU0WGY%3D&reserved=0>

I note it is from 2010, which may or may not be recent in EPICSland
Thanks and all the best Graeme
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RE: Would this motor record documentation be considered "current" Foster, Andrew (-,RAL,TEC) via Tech-talk
Re: Would this motor record documentation be considered "current" Graeme Winter via Tech-talk
Re: Would this motor record documentation be considered "current" Torsten Bögershausen via Tech-talk
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