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Subject: Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts
From: "Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov via Tech-talk" <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
To: Michael Davidsaver <mdavidsaver at gmail.com>
Cc: EPICS Tech Talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 14:39:56 +0700 (+07)
Hi Michael!

On Sat, 20 Sep 2025, Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk wrote:

On 9/19/25 00:35, Marco Filho wrote:
 Ah, I think I didn't properly understand this email on the first read.

> Generally, I have found that the more effective way to coordinate > connect/disconnect is at the driver level.  Generally with a special > device support to drive on-connect processing.

IMHO, it isn't a "more effective" but is rather the ONLY reliable way.

As only the driver code, which issues a connect() call and is directly notified about connect success or failure, thus has first-hand knowledge of the connection status and is able to perform connect/disconnect.

All the other ways use some form of side effects, which are unreliable and can change with time.

 You mean disconnecting from the actual equipment before the PVs are
 initialized and then only connecting once all the links are properly
 initialized?
 If so, how do you detect at driver level that that has happened?

I think you have right idea, although the other way around.  My thinking is that a driver initializes into a latched "error" state, which is cleared by processing a record.  I like this approach because it naturally leads to handling the initial connection the same as a re-connect.

For me it seems obvious to use 2 boolean PVs:

	1. "isConnected", which is SCAN="I/O intr" and is updated by the
	   driver upon change of connection state to be 1 (connected) or 0
	   (disconnected); initially value is 0.  (It can be naturally
	   monitored by code and DB links; multiple "isConnected" values
	   can be ANDed).

	2. "doConnect", which can be written to, =1 means "connect if not
	   connected" and =0 means "disconnect".

Isn't such a thing already done somewhere in asyn, streamDevice etc.?

Replies:
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Mark Rivers via Tech-talk
References:
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Ralph Lange via Tech-talk
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Marco Filho via Tech-talk
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Johnson, Andrew N. via Tech-talk
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Marco Filho via Tech-talk
Re: Help with bumpless IOC reboot, record linking and initialization concepts Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk

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