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Subject: Re: PVA crossing network segments
From: "Hu, Yong via Tech-talk" <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
To: "Vodopivec, Klemen" <vodopiveck at ornl.gov>, "tech-talk at aps.anl.gov" <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 01:19:36 +0000
Hi Klemen,

I can confirm your observations. I also have an EPICS 7.0.4 IOC running on Red Hat server which has 4 active network ports. See below. The classical CA server is indeed listening on udp 0 0.0.0.0:5064. The PVA server is listening on all 4 active network interfaces and all broadcast IPs of those network interfaces. I am surprised to see there are two identical UDPs for each interface, i.e. two of this "udp        0      0 10.0.142.25:5076".

Hope PVA experts can explain why PVA server does not use "udp 0.0.0.0 5076" as well as why there are identical UDPs in my messages below. 

At the meantime, could you try "pvinfo -d pvNameFrom192.168.83.100" to see the debug message? Also, you could try set EPICS_PVA_ADDR_LIST to 192.168.83.100 (or 192.168.83.100:portNumber, type 'pvasr' on the PVA server to get portNumber) on the client 192.168.75.100.  

$ sudo netstat -apn | grep 2256238 | sort
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5064            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2256238/bin/linux-x 
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5075            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:42501           0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:45141           0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:47259           0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:47822           0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5064            0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 10.0.142.25:5076        0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 10.0.142.25:5076        0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 10.0.143.255:5076       0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 10.0.143.255:5076       0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 130.199.222.255:5076    0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 130.199.222.255:5076    0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 130.199.222.75:5076     0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 130.199.222.75:5076     0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.122.1:5076      0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.122.1:5076      0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.122.255:5076    0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.122.255:5076    0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.20.20:5076      0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.20.20:5076      0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.21.255:5076     0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 192.168.21.255:5076     0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 224.0.0.128:5076        0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
udp        0      0 224.0.0.128:5076        0.0.0.0:*                           2256238/bin/linux-x 
unix  2      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     12813364 2256238/bin/linux-x  

Cheers,
Yong


On 4/9/21, 11:44 AM, "Tech-talk on behalf of Vodopivec, Klemen via Tech-talk" <tech-talk-bounces at aps.anl.gov on behalf of tech-talk at aps.anl.gov> wrote:

    Hi,

    I apologize if this has been answered before, but a simple search came up empty.

    We’re trying to use PVA on our segmented network for some structured tabular data. On the given network segments, CA works fine for years without the need for CA gateway but with some small help from the router mangling the broadcast (discovery) requests. What appears to be working for CA on port 5064, it doesn’t for PVA on port 5076 even after adding similar rule to the router.

    The use case is as follows:

    caget/pvget client is on a 192.168.75.100/22 with bcast address 192.168.75.255. softIocPVA server is on a 192.168.83.100/22 with bcast address 192.168.83.255. caget requests work, but pvget don’t. We have traced it to be that the router turns UDP discover message destined to 192.168.83.255 into 255.255.255.255 when pushing it to the 192.168.80.0 segment. The CA server is listening on 0.0.0.0:5064 and it catches that, but the PVA server is listening on 192.168.83.255:5076 and it doesn’t see messages for 255.255.255.255. 

    We’re working with networking guys to understand why router turns 192.168.83.255 into 255.255.255.255, but I was wondering if anyone else has tried similar setup and whether there’s any workaround. These tests were done with EPICS 7.0.4.1

    Thanks, Klemen


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Re: PVA crossing network segments Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk
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