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Subject: Weird channel access problem within Python softioc process
From: Paul Richards via Tech-talk <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
To: "tech-talk at aps.anl.gov" <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:05:59 +0000

All,

 

At Keck, we have been using the EPICS Python softioc with great success.  The recent 3.1 release has made it even more popular and easier to use.

 

That said, I have found a very odd behavior that I can replicate, relating to the consumption of keywords inside the same process that runs the softioc.  Sometimes it makes sense to do it this way, instead of finding a reference to the channel in the IOC and manipulating that.

 

A simplified example of the problem:

  1. Import the pyepics and softioc libraries.
  2. Start a softioc with a channel (call it ‘prefix:long’ in my example).
  3. Start a thread that periodically updates the channel with a new value.
  4. Start another thread that tries to access this channel, either with epics.PV() or epics.caget().
  5. Channel access in thread 2 always times out, forever.

 

Today I found a “solution” to this that does not make sense: if I start the softioc (the call to softioc.iotInit()) in the first thread, and not in the main process, everything works as expected.

 

Our engineers are unable to explain this behavior.  I hope there’s someone here on the list that might know why!

 

 

Example code that demonstrates the failure:

--------------------

 

import os

import time

import threading

 

os.environ['EPICS_CA_SERVER_PORT'] = '5100'

os.environ['EPICS_CA_ADDR_LIST'] = 'localhost:5100'

os.environ['EPICS_CA_AUTO_ADDR_LIST'] = 'NO'

 

try:

    import epicscorelibs.path.pyepics

except ImportError:

    pass

import epics

 

from softioc import softioc, builder

 

# Create a long record for this demo

long = builder.longOut('prefix:long', initial_value=1)

builder.LoadDatabase()

softioc.iocInit()

 

def thread1():

    while True:

        val = long.get()

        long.set(val + 1)

        print(f'thread1: {val}')

        time.sleep(1)

 

def thread2():

    pv = epics.PV('prefix:long')

 

    while True:

        val = pv.get()

        print(f'thread2: {val}')

        time.sleep(1)

 

t1 = threading.Thread(target=thread1, daemon=True)

t2 = threading.Thread(target=thread2, daemon=True)

 

t1.start()

t2.start()

 

time.sleep(10)

 

 

 

Example that works; note the only change is the movement of the .iocInit() line down into thread1:

--------------------

 

import os

import time

import threading

 

os.environ['EPICS_CA_SERVER_PORT'] = '5100'

os.environ['EPICS_CA_ADDR_LIST'] = 'localhost:5100'

os.environ['EPICS_CA_AUTO_ADDR_LIST'] = 'NO'

 

try:

    import epicscorelibs.path.pyepics

except ImportError:

    pass

import epics

 

from softioc import softioc, builder

 

# Create a long record for this demo

long = builder.longOut('prefix:long', initial_value=1)

builder.LoadDatabase()

 

def thread1():

    softioc.iocInit()

 

    while True:

        val = long.get()

        long.set(val + 1)

        print(f'thread1: {val}')

        time.sleep(1)

 

def thread2():

   pv = epics.PV('prefix:long')

 

    while True:

        val = pv.get()

        print(f'thread2: {val}')

        time.sleep(1)

 

t1 = threading.Thread(target=thread1, daemon=True)

t2 = threading.Thread(target=thread2, daemon=True)

 

t1.start()

t2.start()

 

time.sleep(10)

 

 

The output when it fails:

 

$ python3 ./demoFailingDaemon.py

Starting iocInit

############################################################################

## EPICS 7.0.6.0

## Rev. 7.0.6.99.1.0

############################################################################

iocRun: All initialization complete

thread1: 1

thread1: 2

thread1: 3

thread2: None

thread1: 4

thread1: 5

thread2: None

thread1: 6

thread1: 7

thread1: 8

thread2: None

thread1: 9

thread1: 10

thread1: 11

 

 

The output when it works:

 

$ python3 ./demoWorkingDaemon.py

Starting iocInit

############################################################################

## EPICS 7.0.6.0

## Rev. 7.0.6.99.1.0

############################################################################

iocRun: All initialization complete

thread1: 1

thread2: 2

thread1: 2

thread2: 3

thread1: 3

thread2: 4

thread1: 4

thread2: 5

thread1: 5

thread2: 6

thread1: 6

thread2: 7

thread1: 7

thread2: 8

thread1: 8

thread2: 9

thread1: 9

thread2: 10

thread1: 10

thread2: 11

 

 

 

 

 

Paul

 

 

 

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Re: Weird channel access problem within Python softioc process Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk
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