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Subject: Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so?
From: "Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov via Tech-talk" <tech-talk at aps.anl.gov>
To: Andrew Johnson <anj at anl.gov>
Cc: tech-talk at aps.anl.gov
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 15:38:46 +0700 (+07)
Hi Andrew,

On Wed, 10 May 2023, Andrew Johnson wrote:

 However, a brief investigation had found this had changed in the 7.0.x
 between 7.0.2 and 7.0.7: in 7.0.2 the libca.so.4.13.3 does have a
 dependency on libreadline, while 7.0.7's libca.so.4.14.2 does NOT.

 So, if 7.0.x was refactored to get rid of this dependency, then this
 change can probably be back-ported to 3.15.x.  A quick inspection of
 https://epics.anl.gov/base/R7-0/7-docs/RELEASE_NOTES.html doesn't show any
 traces of this change; probably a "diff -Naur" between sources is
 required.  I'm not sure my skills are sufficient for this back-porting,
 but I'll try.
I suspect that your brief investigation missed the fact that there were changes to the build system's detection of whether the target has a usable copy of readline installed, and those changes are almost certainly why some of your builds linked the libCom shared library with it and others didn't.

I performed checks on a same x86_64 system (CentOS7 with readline-devel installed (specifically for EPICS3)), so the differences are caused by 7.0.x versions only.

BTW, I've just built all releases between 7.0.2.2 and 7.0.7 to find when this change happened and it turned out to be the 7.0.7:

b360mc:/tmp/x% ldd base-7.0.6/lib/linux-x86_64/libCom.so.3.20.0 base-7.0.7/lib/linux-x86_64/libCom.so.3.22.0
base-7.0.6.1/lib/linux-x86_64/libCom.so.3.21.0:
	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffc3def000)
	libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f0b17fc5000)
	libreadline.so.6 => /lib64/libreadline.so.6 (0x00007f0b17d7f000)
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007f0b17b77000)
	libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f0b17973000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f0b1766c000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f0b1736a000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f0b17154000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0b16d87000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f0b18455000)
	libtinfo.so.5 => /lib64/libtinfo.so.5 (0x00007f0b16b5d000)
base-7.0.7/lib/linux-x86_64/libCom.so.3.22.0:
	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007ffe65529000)
	libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f402824d000)
	librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007f4028045000)
	libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f4027e41000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f4027b3a000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f4027838000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f4027622000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f4027255000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f40286dd000)

The next step will be to find which git commit bringed this change.


If you don't want your builds of libCom and libCa to depend on readline, you should ensure that it doesn't get built in by setting COMMANDLINE_LIBRARY=EPICS in an appropriate CONFIG_SITE* file.

Yes, I finally figured that out. 3.15.9 does include appropriate comments in configure/os/CONFIG_SITE.Common.linux-x86_64; I wish those were present in 3.15.6 days when I first met with readline problem, but there was only a rather misleading "If none of them work, comment them all out to build without readline support." statement, so I *had* to build libreadline (which is a rather troublesome beast in itself) and adopted a strong dislike of it :)

Our default build configuration is likely to /always/ try to make use of readline if it's available, since it makes the IOC's shell so much easier to interact with. That is especially true now that the command-line completion features that readline provides have been integrated into iocsh.

Yes, that's understandable.

(I vividly remember the gulf in the convenience of editing the commandline between bare-metal (be happy if Backspace works) and DOS, and later between DOS and *NIX with Tab support.)

The only oddity which puzzled me is integration of commandline editing into libCom -- that looks completely out of place.


With best regards,
Dmitry

Replies:
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Simon Rose via Tech-talk
References:
Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov via Tech-talk
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Michael Davidsaver via Tech-talk
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov via Tech-talk
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Han Lee via Tech-talk
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov via Tech-talk
Re: Why does libca.so depend on libreadline.so? Andrew Johnson via Tech-talk

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